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Political Spectrums: Middle Hybrids and Brains are Best.

Political Spectrums: Middle Hybrids and Brains are Best.

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I was thinking about one of my friends posts, how that conservatives were the mocked minority at her school. Here, it's the other way around. It's too easy to see the damage conservatives have done. Stephen Harper and his radical campaign against a basic human right (get out of people's bedrooms and focus on some REAL issues for once ,geez)
Then there is the "trickle down effect", where policy tries to stimulate the economy by giving money to rich people... where basic economics can show how useless and impotent THAT strategy is. Also, going far conservative, one gets "contraceptives are evil" and "embrace the pain, for Christ is your lover".
Because of our conservatives we have: no sky train to UBC, our campus parking lot is so far way from campus that there is a 15 minute shuttle to and from, family housing, farm, forest, collages, and parking lots are now multimillion dollar residences for non university people, our bus loop is being turned into a shopping mall and put underground.

I wonder what kind of stupid people at her school are running around giving liberals a bad name. For the most part our liberal party IS actually conservative, at least around here. I wonder if it's the sparticus youth kids, running around yelling for the liberation of quebec from anglochauvanism, as well as the crushing of the evil tibetan and taiwainese rebellion.

Could also be the binge culture of collage/uni. One can see a sea of punked up skanked out peeps riding a wave of drug, orgy and alcoholic exploration of the first taste of freedom. If the whole of the place is like that, even I perhaps would feel uncomfortable, if not at least a little alone. The sad thing is that though you can't see it now... many of theses radical bingers become extra conservative in their maturity, vowing never to let those mistakes happen again, come down hard ontheir children, driving the whole rebellion repression cycle forwards...

What is liberal anyways? Would it be planned parenting, condoms and sustainable living? I hope so, but I'll have to admit I'm ignorant in this one... the issues are being swept under the rug by the sex debate.
  • Thre are two variants on Liberalism (you'll have to forgive me, I'm still stoked from a presentation I just gave on the subject): Classical Liberalism and Reform Liberalism.

    Liberals of all stripes believe in the invisible hand of the market (or, at least pay lip service to it). They believe that the acheivement of individual desires is the highest good and try to ensure that everyone is free to acheive their desires (life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and all that). For most western countries, Liberalism is the status quo. The embrace of liberalism essentially created private lives, in that liberals believe that there is a certain sphere of individual existance that no one should be able to meddle in.

    The difference between classical (also called 19th century) Liberals and Reform Liberals is essentially that one believes in negative freedoms and the other in positive. Negative freedom means that under no circumstances may one impinge on an individual's liberty unless the exercise of that liberty would transgress the law (which is designed to protect the freedom of others). Positive freedom involves taking some freedom from some people in order to facilitate the use of freedom by others. Essentially, classical liberalism believes in equality of right (you suceed or fail based on your own merits - inequality is as natural as it is desirable), and reform liberalism believes in equality of result (the now familiar concept of social justice).

    Essentially, Liberals believe that the market will correct all things - sustainable living will be facilitated by the interplay of goods and services, using these, rational actors will weigh the risks associated with the choices that they have to make and decide accordingly. Our spin on Liberalism in Canada is decidedly reformist, and therefore, there will be a social safety net to catch them, should they screw up. Since true Liberals believe that people should be free to make their own choices and pursue their own happiness, they'd probably put it to the people to decide in just about every area of policy.
    • Ok, now what's conservative ecocomonic policy?

      Ok, that's cool, so what's conservative economic policy?

      I may actually be fiscally socialist conservative :)

      • Re: Ok, now what's conservative ecocomonic policy?

        Erm...conservatives never really developed an economic policy of their own. Conservatism, as with Liberalism and Socialism emerged as a reaction to the French Revolution. Conservatives preferred traditional authority to the new, untested legal authority - hence, they didn't really have an economic policy (or at least they didn't inasmuch as traditional monarchies didn't) at the outset.

        Conservatives do take a fairly dismal view of human nature, however, and thus are not as likely as Liberals to consider people able to rule their own affairs - as a result, Conservative governments tend to be quite institutionally oriented in all their policies. They also consider themselves in tune with the pragmatic realities of our time, without all this airy-faerie idealistic non-sense, and this tends to translate into an extremely business friendly policy style (for which they usually borrow Classical Liberal type justifications)

        The one exception to this general rule is that social Conservatives view a pleasure seeking lifestyle as detrimental to the greater good. They believe that hedonism has a deletrious effect on the fulfilliment of one's duty to oneself, as well as to others. This is the central argument behind most Conservative critiques of this era - our collective obsession with instantaneous gratification has eroded our sense of community to such an extent that we have become, in many ways, disfunctional as a society. Hence, a Conservative would be far less likely than a Liberal to allow pornographers and sex shops to flourish (for example), despite the fact that this would probably help the economy.
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